06 July 06
Interview With A Blood
According to Phoenix Police Department, acts of violence enabled Bones to rise to the rank of leader in the South Side Posse Bloods. His police reports include crimes such as kidnapping, interfering with judicial proceedings, misconduct involving weapons, and possession of a prohibited weapon. One report states he was, “firing shots at another vehicle.” Let’s find out more about Bones.
“What’s a Blood?”
“The opposite of a Crip. Red versus blue. It started in L.A..”
“What division are you in?”
“The South Side Posse Bloods – a Chicano gang.”
“Did you get jumped in?”
“Yeah. Me and my friends were at a Posse party and gang members asked us if we wanted to get jumped in. There were six of us. My partners were big dudes – six footers, weighin’ two-hundred-and-sixty pounds each or so. There were fifteen of them. They gave a girl a stopwatch, and told us we were gonna have a free-for-all for seven to ten minutes. That’s a long time when you’re fightin’. People were getting’ body-slammed, tossed over a bonfire, hit over the head with bottles. After that everybody was cool, and lickin’ their wounds. We were officially part of the gang.”
“How did you rise up?”
“I became real popular. I was known for not takin’ any shit. And I was quick to shoot if someone came around. That earned me respect in the neighbourhood.”
“Which neighbourhood?”
“In Phoenix, it started out in '85, '86 in a small section of the south side of Central and Baseline to 7th Ave, and Baseline up to Dobbins and 7th.
“How did it begin?”
“Certain dudes in the neighbourhood refused to join the gang Happy Homes, and started South Side Posse Bloods. The cofounders included Lasaro and Chapo, who are dead now.”
“How dangerous did the gang become?”
“Extremely dangerous. We were known for havin’ guns. One night a Crip drove up and yelled, ‘Fuck Slobs,’ which is disrespectful to Bloods, and he shot into the crowd with a shotgun. After our gang had shot back, the police found ninety-seven rounds of ammunition in his car. One Crip died. One ended up in a wheelchair for life. It was on the news.”
“Do Bloods have different age classifications like the Crips have Pee-Wees or BGs?”
“We didn’t have ranks like that in our neighbourhood. Whoever puts in the most work gets the most respect.”
“What kind of work?”
“If enemies were talkin’ bad about us, we’d beat 'em down or shoot 'em. Drive-bys, stuff like that. Especially if they shot at us or killed one of us.”
“How big is the gang?”
“In ’95 there were fifteen-hundred members. It was the biggest Chicano Blood gang in Arizona. Until ’95, they were all the same gang. After ’95 they separated into little groups with their own shot-callers. But if somethin’ went down, if a gang challenged us by shootin’ at us, we’d all get together and retaliate, and not with just a single car drive-by. There’s be four or five cars, five guys in each, and everbody packin’ one or two guns. We were not people you wanted to cross.”
“Were South Side Posse big in the prison system?”
“At age twenty, I was the first member in the prison system. Then we didn’t have too many problems. But in ’95 the Mexican Mafia gave the green light to kill our members 'cause we didn’t play by their rules. They didn’t like the drive-bys 'cause kids and innocent people could get killed. But in our gang, if we’re gonna kill someone, we shoot when we see him no matter where he is or who he’s with. That’s why we’re known as one of the most dangerous gangs in Phoenix. When I came back to prison, I got jumped every time, every yard I went to. I was stabbed in my right side.” Bones pointed at a scar on his torso, and I noticed the SSP tattoo on his middle finger.
“How powerful were the SSP when you were last on the streets?”
“That was ’97. They’d branched off. There was 10th Street SSP. There was 7th Street SSP. And they were beefin’ with each other. The original dudes were dead or locked up. The new generation came up with their own rules, and were not feared by too many people. Several divisions bowed down to the Mexican Mafia by formin’ alliances.”
“What slang do you use?”
“Stuff like, ‘What that B like?’ meanin’ ‘How’s Blood life?’ Or ‘Whattup B-Dogg?’”
“Spelt Dawg?”
“Yeah or Dogg, like Snoop Dogg. We say, ‘bikin’ it,’ instead of ‘kickin’ it,’ 'cause all the C-words are for Crips, and we add a B for Bloods. If I’m kickin’ back, hangin’ out, I’d say, ‘I’m just gonna bik it, homey.’ We call Crips ‘crabs,’ 'cause they back up like crabs. And we call 'em, ‘E-rikets,’ 'cause they jump away like crickets. If a dude is dressed up all in blue we say he’s, ‘All boobooed up,’ and we’ll sweat him and ask him where he’s from.”
“Do you guys use expressions like, ‘fo shizzle,’ as in ‘for sure’?”
“No. That’s really for black gangs. Mostly for us, C-words become B-words. A cigarette is a bigarette. Crazy is brazy. I would say, ‘Did you see what that B-Dogg did, that shit was brazy, fool.’ Cousin is fousin.”
“Why not bousin?”
“It’s just the way it is.”
“If Crips are boobooed up in blue what do you guys typically wear?”
“Bloods wear red shirts and baseball caps, black jeans (dickies), and sneakers that are usually Nike. We had a bit of style. We were pretty-boy gang members, which attracted the girls. But don’t get me wrong: we were brazy Bloods.”
“Has this fashion changed since you’ve been down?”
“If someone claims Bloods they’re still wearin’ red.”
“What music do Bloods prefer?”
“Gangsta rap. The Relatives. Banging On Wax. Tupac – a lot – but he was just a thug not a Blood. Anythin’ from Bloods and not from Crips. We listened to Snoop Dogg until we found out he was a Crip.”
“I appreciate you talking to me, and providing an insight into gang culture. Is there anything you’d like to add?”
“After being in this gang life, out of fifteen-hundred gang members I knew, only three remained loyal to me, including Chris G, Negro, and my last homeboy, my brother, who did five years for manslaughter for killin’ a gang member who was tryin’ to kill me and had beat my sister with a sledgehammer. My brother’s dead now, so I’d like to put out an RIP for Robert.”
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Copyright © 2005-2006 Shaun P. Attwood
52 comments:
Thanks for the insight Jon. Can you please interview Frankie? What happened to Frankie? Where is he from? What gang? WHERE IS FRANKIE!!!!!!!! WE WANT FRANKIE! WE WANT FRANKIE! PLEASE POST SOMETHING, ANYTHING ABOUT FRANKIE, PLEASE! -Joe in San Diego
I found it rather amusing that you felt the need to clarify (during an interview with a gang member)the spelling of 'dawg/dogg'. You must have made a significant mental note of my comment to have remembered to ask such a question under pressure in an interview.
Secondly, I wondered how the interviews are coming about. Requesting an interview with opposing gang members could place you in a precarious and dangerous position. Although I thoroughly enjoy discovering inside information on such topics, you need to be careful. I would be ever so sad to hear of any ill news caused by such endeavours. As part of a member of your blog audience, BE CAREFUL!!
JMK
fascinating, as ever. This Bones seems like quite a character..
can't believe these guys really exist. great to read but you are making some scary friends jon take care
Question for Bones, couldn't all that energy and organisation could be used for less negative activities?
a great interview, jon, keep em' comin'
This is Mr Guero Dog Lokon from the BiG SouthSide Posse. I went to the pinta and the homies knew I was from the Posse, some tripped on me but never did anyone disrespect me like bones said. Shit my celly was from SS happy homes too. I was a little vato to and he gave me all the respect. Mr Madman Lokon the OG from Posse was there and Nobody fucked with him either. Some of our homies did go the EME route and much respect to them.
Mr. Guero Dog Lokon
OG SSPG
WHAT UP SSP MEXICAN BLOODS THIS IS O.G.SNYPER1 BEEN IN THE POSSE SINCE '89 I WENT DOWN IN '94 DID 3 YEARS AND MET UP WITH THE EME AND WE WERE HATED BUT GAVE RESPECT TO THE EME AND EARNED IT BACK. STAY BLEEDING TO ALL MY GENTE MOST DOWNEST MOST HATED MOST FEARED BIG SOUTH SIDE POSSE MEXICAN BLOOD GANG MUCH RESPECT TO THE LATIN KING NATION ALL CHAPTERS ESPCIALLY SOUTH SIDE CHICAGO
Man I'm left speechless...Yeah I knew Lazaro & Flaco.... the whole city of Phoenix, all gangbangaz included know that the Posse was one of the most hated and still the most hated gang in the eyes of all hoods, Happy Homes, W.S.CITY, 10th ave Lindo Park Crip Gang, LCM all sides, the list goes one, shit rival hoods would squash a beef for a quick minute cause the hatred for the Posse was unfounded....The EME hated the fact that the Posse was all Mexicans but said they were bloods which everyone knows is a considered a black gang thang....This Bones dude is a clown....I never in my life heard of such a character, not to say he's not in the pen for the stuff they said he did but come on the Posse has no history in this city...Everyone who knows anything about gangs in PHX, knows the Milpas & the DUB are the 2 most work put in hoods and the 2 closest hoods to which mirror LA gangs.....IF you ask me, the biggest baddest gang in the PHX is the PPD....
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Hey dawg I just wanted to say that south side posse blood gang is still around!I've been a member since 93'and I've seen my dawgs come and go through the years.I've learned alot, out here living this life of a blood on these phx streets.Especially since I still live in the neighbor hood on 3rd just north dobbins.I don't bang like I used to but I still rep with a red rag in my back right pocket.Kause no matter what or how old I get being a mexican blood wasn't easy!It's a lifes story that only members as individuals experience!!And to all the young bloodz who are just entering this life style b-up blood and remember theres always consequences for our actions!And most important D.T.A remember that your O.G.B-dawg c.k.a krazy-e newskool and much love to oldskool bloodz still reppin.
My cousin Robert died for SSP he got shot up for much love for SSP R.I.P RoB... SurX3 familia 4 eva.
this is lilbuck...i banged ssp since 94 and even went to the worst high school for a blood{alhambra}but still to this day flame up...much love to all my big homies...but cant foget joey v...rip dawg miss you...red ragger for life...
I DON'T KNOW AND R3ALLY DON'T CAR3 WHAT YALL TALK3N BKOUT!!!!!! YOU DIGG!!!!!!! IT'5 LINDO PARK CRIP TILL TH3 DAY I DI3 BKITCH!!!!!!!!! IT'5 NOT 3V3N ALL ABOUT THAT BkA9EN SHIT OV3R H3R3.... W3 ON SOM3 9ET MON3Y!!!!!!!! FUKC BKITCHS TYP3 SHIT!!!!!!!!! YOU DI9.... BKUT I JUST WANT3D TO 53T TH3 R3CORD5 5TRIGHT CCCCCCCCUUUUUUUUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!! AND T3LL YOU WHAT IT R3ALLY I5.... NOW Y3AH THAT!!!!!!!!!! 5OUTH 5ID3!!!!! (PHO3NIX) LINO PARK CRIP 9ANG!!!!!!! FOR LIF3 (and yeah!!!!!! you got bKan9 on bKy MRS. LADY 5U3D3 SO WHAT TH3 BU5IN355 IS?)
HAHA AYY CUHH MS SUEDE A LOCC MAN
9'S UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SS LPCG AABk FUKC DA REST
FUKC WIT DA LOCO'S FROM DA 9 MAN
LLLIINNNDDOOO
ayy cuh fux wit all dat slobk shit cuh. you cant fux wit dat nina gang cuh. lindo park crip gang. A.A.B. r.i.p. t-patt ; snaccs; and o.g. c-bo cuh. 23rd to tha 19th cuh. wayland blocc on crip cuh. baby blue rag bangin cuh. . .dis BIG LOCO cuh
Dis OG Onion Loc from LINDO PARK...MUCH LOVE to the OG Homies...Big Face, C-Nutt, Nic-Nac, 1/2 Breed, & RIP Lil John, n Lil Loc!!! For old time sakes 19th Ave Banged on Da Posse n put in da most work bac in '88-'91!!!! C'S UP, HOES DOWN...DA POSSE ALWAYS GOT CLOWNED!! LINDO PARK 4 LIFE...SSP Murderer!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
U alreay know wat u is Cuh, its westside 43rd blocc young locs crip gang on mine...... R.I.P T-patt, snaccs and all tha bkig OGz from LPCG yadada..... D loc
FucK yal Lindo park cKrab ass nicKas.
Posse Blood 4 life!!
ZOOO-WOOOOOO!!!
yal kno u aint Bout it Blood!
(r.i.p. Petey Pop)
NICkE ARTICkLE....
THESE CkRAB ASS MUTHAFUCKAS NEED 2 REMEMEBER THAT THIS IS A INTERVIEW BY A BLOOD SO THEY cKAN SUCK IT SLOW... FUCK LINDO, FUCK THE CkITY AND FUCK YOU IF U DISRESPECTING....
IT'S BIG TIME SOUTH SIDE POSSE BLOOD GANG HOMIE....
FROM 10TH ST TO 7TH AND 3RD AVE..
R.I.P. ALL OUR FALLEN SOLIDERS....
WAT UP TOPO
Mr Rich Dogg SSP 10st Ck and Fuck Doble! South Side Posse and Vistaz
Fuck Mark South
FUKK U KRAB AZZ NIKKAHS 4TRE ENCANTO BLOOD GANG, I FUKIN HATE WEN YOUNG NIKKAS BE CLAIM THAT 43TH KRAB SHIT,, THAT SHIT DNT EXIST
I grew up Central & Baseline, (actually on Winston between 2nd Street and 3rd Street) 70's through 2001 when I moved out of the neighborhood. I've had many friends die because of being belonging to SSP, there was one year (1991/92) that 7 friends where murdered. People I grew up with. People think it's cool, you know whats cool? Not dieing when you 16, 17, 18 years old, getting a education, finding that special someone and having a family. I made it out of there, though I was never a gang member, I had to much respect for myself and my family to be killed for over what?
All tru bdogg 88-96
SOUTH SIDE POSSE BLOOD GANG 7THAVE FREE LIL CHRIS & LIL JHONNY R.I.P. PLAYA PAUL MUCH LOVE AND RESPECT TO THE BIG HOMIES ON LOCK BZUP .....7TH AVE UP BLOODY
This B that MADD Swan Grimace out in Maryland. Just wanna let y'all Mexican homies know that we got nothing but love for y'all. Bang on Blood
Add me on facebook OG.
Troy Campbell
I been bangin since 1997 at the age of 12 once you in you in for life. The only way of getting out is death. No matter how many years pas gangs still exist ain't no stopping fuck slobs PIRU 135 CKUZ.
Posse up cKant stop won't stop SSPB SantaKlara Av. 16 Pzz up Tusson Blood
Jay Dawg what up bones I think we may have met in the Joint Jesse my Fist name but I'm From LA Tusa South Side Posse pir Vida Blood you know things change in all our lives I'm 44 years old and a little twist no different strokes you know the saying but I've been southern cal. Oregon ,Washington,always put it it down and let fools k ow with no she south Side Posse Blood Gang LaTusa as I get older get beat down more than then and Really don't carry heat but I will always Bleed and it has been an honor to hustle and I have issues downfalls but I keep it real and represent the skill I learned from Big Dawg Pelon and people will always hate because we are the real niggas Brazy and intelligent and style we are not chollos we are gangsters who had ambition to be more than your ordinary and people are jeolous and most pedo we ever had was over one some other gangs puts girlfriend who got some blood dick and Hus weak ass lueing hurt pride mouth got himself dead or in an ambulance along with his crew we are a Dynasty yeah were not holly wood libre mippas centro no we are unique because we are still here and growing so back on up and accept that we made it and I had it ruff in the joint and I never had big issues because I had no tattoos but if the asked and they always do where from I say Tucson hommie of yeah what barrio you from I say south side posse and the reply was alys oh yeah aren't they bloods I would say yeah and to be real this is how it starts not for just us or me or anybody from a gang ,this is your time to shine go for what you know and half the time wolf tickets ,first of all it takes a certain breed to even becs Mexican blood to even accept that you choose that at that moment you show heart because the tittle alone makes a target but the cold represents an element and is also known as power so we are and always will be natural born warrior cause we make ourselves a target all you cripp niggas and other gang affiliated with blue can be from any where who knows but when we ride and are flmmed up you know and its hard to nor stare, envy,hate because we have more heart from the start to all my hommie that affiliated with the Big Hommie I'm not mad at you it's the ultimate tittle of a G ,not for me but all my love to Big Dawgs Don't really Know What's Crakin with your onda but I pray for peace for you guys unity love LA Raza Por Vida all my genre in the pinta get together and love and help one another to become sober and bring it back to the love we showed when I first went down and stop using dope to lure our younger vatos to destruction Be a killa and a menace,Mexican cause you choose it like in the Reglas they will seek and find themselves I love that it pure poetry and it scares the shit out of me at the same time that's so damn real unless your heart pumps their blood that's real talk I love my state and I support no facion I love all you guys and I hope all of us as a whole find peace Crazy Jay South Side Posse LA Tusa.......
Much respect comming from a mescan blood eloy az to yuma still rippn all day everyday
Fuk Them Busters. CGC CASHION GANG CRIP WEESSST SIIIDDEEE holding it down on the WESTSIDE 111th ave and MC-85, fuk NORte, they all wannabe Crip that why they claiming the B word FOr BLUE CUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Ea5t5ide bloods dawg... Let it hang on the right.... Eloy az
I just want to say that I was in this gang from 93 to 96 and joined the Army to get out. Best decision I ever made. To any kid between the age of 12 and 25, it is not too late, get out.
If you are 17 or older go talk to an Army recruiter, even if you have a record there are things they can do. If you can't get into the Army get involved with a church, just get out.
I lost my brother and I still have nightmares from all the stuff that happened. I have a family, I'm successful and a have home that no one can ever take from me, no matter what you can turn it around.
I know people who are still in prison because what they did during that time in the 90s. I know everything that people are commenting on here seems like loyalty to your neighborhood, but your neighborhood has no loyalty to you and will take your life and forget you ever existed. Be strong, move on, you will thank me when you are in your 30s with a wife and kids that love you watching a Cardinals game relaxing with friends, rather than in prison doing life for a neighborhood that just wants to use you.
Much respect dawg... ssp is a well respected hood
Posse is almost gone im a big homie who just got out and its active in there but almost gone out here
Lindo is a bunch of rapist like park south go bang that crab ass niggas
Prison is where this idiot and all his dumb ass friends deserve to be. They need to lock people like him up and throw the keys into outer space. Or stick all the idiots on one island and let them kill each other off so the rest of civilized society doesn't have to waste taxpayers dollars on them or feed these assholes while they live off of our dime in prisons.
No real human being has any respect for gang bangers of any neighborhood you notice most of these assholes are not even from Phoenix, they came here to escape their miserable ass existence somewhere else and over time Phoenix became just as dirty and screwed up as where the trash moved here from.
this fool said intelligent Marcos Cota...not one of these punks old as hell still doing and saying stupid crap is intelligent or he'd b doing more with his future. These fools are worthless wastes of DNA that should have been aborted. This world would be so much better off without the entire lot of them in it. The idiot talking about Lindo knows nothing about Lindo there were a few banging idiots and the rest of the neighborhood was good decent people. Hell, we hate all of you morons. Grow up or go to prison where you all belong. Out of sight out of mind. Or just save us the taxes and die off already you are all played out and a waste of resources.
R.I.P. bkig bkro - Melly Mel. LPCG 4LIF3
What that N9N3 like cuz.
If you can't stand the heat get yo ass out the kitchen.
3 houses down from C-Bo Cuz
E-Dogg aka Kaos
Lol fuck SSP, Crips, Surface, and all niggers especially. Come to Mexico City with your nonsense and well put you on the streets selling that ass. If you don't lije it we have the option to cut your monkey head off. Don't believe me? Ask that NIGGER Malcom X grandson how things went for him in Garibaldi. Fuckin nigger got buried with that black pride nonsense fucking monkeys
7th Ave Headhunter/Naybahood...Minton blocc... Smashed posse out the set... 7.i.p G-LoC. Southside Phoenix... Baseline Bullies.
Fuck ssp slob gang!! Bk all day grew up banging on these fools 95 96 97 good times!
This is black spider. Man I miss lil ck. He was a down as b-dogg. SPPBG 7ave all day
What's his last name G?
Gangs no longer exist in the big cities of AZ and thank God.
Honestly SSP y’all are not factors at all and y’all really the vistas lil Messycan groupies on 19 y’all really fake asf I can respect double n other Chicano hoods because that’s they hood how tf y’all magically became bloods? Wtf and y’all messycans gtfoh Lindo ParKC Kitchens most hated gang ask yo dead homies
Hit up a guy named guero b his Facebook name is guero pesos
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